out of the gates really forcefully and what does that do in the persona of biden as far as a debate environment? i think this format which is the same format that you saw in the first debate will enable some back and forth and some fireworks. so that's why this debate this week is very interesting. but the town hall debate is next for the presidents -- debate for the presidential debate format in new york. and then you have the foreign policy debate. so it is really romney's debate performance and campaigning this all these battleground states. dagen: what about on the president's side? is it also the most critical thing for him, his debate performance, or are they focused on something completely different? >> well, i think they are focused on the spending and the get out the vote effort. they have an infrastructure that they've spent a lot of money on, and you see he's still out campaigning trying to raise money because there is a machine that costs a lot of money to run, a lot of offices around the country to try to get out those voters on election day. you know, the economy while some -- you